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Finally found "my" pick
To preface this, I've just ordered some 20 packs of different picks in order the find the "one" that fits me and my playing style (I played an ESP LTD EC-1000 in Standard tuning, I couldn't test this with heavier gauge or a 7-string guitar).
I test all picks with the following parameters:
1. A fast/heavy metal song
2. Strumming songs
3. Practice pick, ala scales up and down
4. Slow song that requires exact attacks on phrases and is not "shreddy"
Out of all those points, this pick does it ALL except #2 (for me, personally, Nylon is the best at strumming).
Grip got only "4 stars" because there are picks who are superior to grippiness, such as Matt Heafy's Jazz III, that's almost sandpaper-like grippiness and you cannot compare the two. However, this pick will not drop or displace itself in your hand that easily (I am 1,96cm tall, so my fingers are quite long).
This is not your standard "small Jazz III" pick, it is a proper pick (if you dislike the miniature size of standard Jazz III's).
Playing fast parts and heavy downpicks (Creeping Death, Master of Puppets) is not a problem for this pick whatsoever. Fast shreddy parts give proper attack and feel to the notes, without being too "clangy" or too "fat" sounding. The only pick I find superior to Jazz III XL for fast stuff with a good amount of aggressive attack is Hetfield's 1.14 Ultex pick.
As aforementioned, strumming with this pick is... not the best. If you wish to have proper dynamics in strumming songs, that is a chore to achieve with this pick (as you will need to loosen your grip), and the result is that the strums can often feel too aggressive, which breaks the dynamic of the song and makes it sound too repetitive.
Apart from strumming (but you're not looking for Jazz III's for that type of playing anyhow), there are only TWO (maybe three) negative things I can say for this pick:
- If you drop it and you have a similarly shaped carpet/flooring (like I do), you won't have fun looking for it.
- The size of the pick in hand and the top of the pick can be a bit misleading at first, because you will miss out on string skips (especially when you go up to the first 3 strings) as if you're playing old-school Tortex, your hand positioning won't be as "close" to the string as you think it will be. This only takes a little time to adjust however, if you've been playing with Jazz III's or any of the smaller picks - this would be just perfect for you.
- For me, personally, I wouldn't want to play soft notes with this pick (ala blues) where a small amount of attack is required, this is best reserved for those awesome Nylon picks (at least in my preference) - however, take this with a grain of salt as this is purely my personal preference.
To end this review with another positive note: the durability of the pick is astonishing, however, even after becoming "rounded" a bit, it is still very much usable and even after abusing it for quite a while it still has the awesome feel to it. Hence why this 24-pack set will last you for quite some time.
I test all picks with the following parameters:
1. A fast/heavy metal song
2. Strumming songs
3. Practice pick, ala scales up and down
4. Slow song that requires exact attacks on phrases and is not "shreddy"
Out of all those points, this pick does it ALL except #2 (for me, personally, Nylon is the best at strumming).
Grip got only "4 stars" because there are picks who are superior to grippiness, such as Matt Heafy's Jazz III, that's almost sandpaper-like grippiness and you cannot compare the two. However, this pick will not drop or displace itself in your hand that easily (I am 1,96cm tall, so my fingers are quite long).
This is not your standard "small Jazz III" pick, it is a proper pick (if you dislike the miniature size of standard Jazz III's).
Playing fast parts and heavy downpicks (Creeping Death, Master of Puppets) is not a problem for this pick whatsoever. Fast shreddy parts give proper attack and feel to the notes, without being too "clangy" or too "fat" sounding. The only pick I find superior to Jazz III XL for fast stuff with a good amount of aggressive attack is Hetfield's 1.14 Ultex pick.
As aforementioned, strumming with this pick is... not the best. If you wish to have proper dynamics in strumming songs, that is a chore to achieve with this pick (as you will need to loosen your grip), and the result is that the strums can often feel too aggressive, which breaks the dynamic of the song and makes it sound too repetitive.
Apart from strumming (but you're not looking for Jazz III's for that type of playing anyhow), there are only TWO (maybe three) negative things I can say for this pick:
- If you drop it and you have a similarly shaped carpet/flooring (like I do), you won't have fun looking for it.
- The size of the pick in hand and the top of the pick can be a bit misleading at first, because you will miss out on string skips (especially when you go up to the first 3 strings) as if you're playing old-school Tortex, your hand positioning won't be as "close" to the string as you think it will be. This only takes a little time to adjust however, if you've been playing with Jazz III's or any of the smaller picks - this would be just perfect for you.
- For me, personally, I wouldn't want to play soft notes with this pick (ala blues) where a small amount of attack is required, this is best reserved for those awesome Nylon picks (at least in my preference) - however, take this with a grain of salt as this is purely my personal preference.
To end this review with another positive note: the durability of the pick is astonishing, however, even after becoming "rounded" a bit, it is still very much usable and even after abusing it for quite a while it still has the awesome feel to it. Hence why this 24-pack set will last you for quite some time.
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Perfect !
I use this product for live playing in a metal band, it has the perfect grip, has a perfect edge, which gives it a perfect attack. Great for Jazz to rock to more.
I only have to buy these over and over again not because I wear them down, its because I keep losing them
I only have to buy these over and over again not because I wear them down, its because I keep losing them
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Bloody Great!
I speed bevel them which opens up the sound and increases dexterity. They glide beautifully across 10s 11s 12s and 13s and digging in sweep and economy picking is effortless. They last a few days.
JD did a great job here!
JD did a great job here!
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Better than nylon jazz 3
Been using XL jazz3's ,stuck with the nylon version for a long time. Did the job but i was looking for something better. The Ultex version is superior by far.
Pros
Much better grip especially when sweating
Slides better between strings
Lasts longer
Price
Cons
I tend to lose them because of the colour
If you are a jazz 3 fan, give them a try , you will be amazed!
Pros
Much better grip especially when sweating
Slides better between strings
Lasts longer
Price
Cons
I tend to lose them because of the colour
If you are a jazz 3 fan, give them a try , you will be amazed!
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The only picks that I'll ever need
A few years ago I did a "pick sampling" and ordered 3-4 of the top picks from Thomann, sorted by popularity. After some amount of time, these are the only ones I still use. The textured grip makes them easy to hold in the fingers and the pick's firmness sound great. I don't play jazz music, but I appreciate the firm pick and really hate the sound of a floppy pick banging on the strings.
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Great accurate picks
After using a couple different picks I now exclusively use these picks.
First of all, the grip on these is great. The extruded lettering on both sides gives them more grip than the 'Dunlop gator grip' picks I used previously, mainly because the gator grip wears off very quickly, while the lettering on these doesn't.
I like the jazz III shape a lot because the sharp tip makes it very accurate, while the beveled edges help in smoothing the playing feel.
I always found the normal jazz picks too small in my fingers, these XL's are perfectly sized in my opinion.
The ultex material makes for a very durable and smooth pick, I can really use one of these for a couple of weeks, depending on playing style.
I haven't found a pick that comes close in overall features for me, especially not in this price range.
First of all, the grip on these is great. The extruded lettering on both sides gives them more grip than the 'Dunlop gator grip' picks I used previously, mainly because the gator grip wears off very quickly, while the lettering on these doesn't.
I like the jazz III shape a lot because the sharp tip makes it very accurate, while the beveled edges help in smoothing the playing feel.
I always found the normal jazz picks too small in my fingers, these XL's are perfectly sized in my opinion.
The ultex material makes for a very durable and smooth pick, I can really use one of these for a couple of weeks, depending on playing style.
I haven't found a pick that comes close in overall features for me, especially not in this price range.
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Could be THE pick for me
The search for a perfect pick seems to be over. Ultex is far better than tortex (annoying dents) and nylon (to soft for me).
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Superb
I've been using Jazz III's for a while now, always found that they were just a little bit too small (though this did help my picking technique massively for some reason). I had tried the Petrucci signature but felt that buying a signature pick was just a bit too far...
These are the solution to all my problems - incredibly grippy and roughly the same size as the standard dunlop tortex - also they have an almost talcum powder like substance on them which actually really helps in keeping them grippy.
Only thing I wouldn't recommend them for is acoustic - they are a bit too thick and aggressive in timbre for most styles of playing.
These are the solution to all my problems - incredibly grippy and roughly the same size as the standard dunlop tortex - also they have an almost talcum powder like substance on them which actually really helps in keeping them grippy.
Only thing I wouldn't recommend them for is acoustic - they are a bit too thick and aggressive in timbre for most styles of playing.
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Perfect!
Simply perfect.
I usually don't like XL size pics but this pic feels perfect in hand and I also like the surface that even if it doesn't have "grip" surface its weirdly clammy and stays on your grip well.
I usually don't like XL size pics but this pic feels perfect in hand and I also like the surface that even if it doesn't have "grip" surface its weirdly clammy and stays on your grip well.
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