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Loving my new bass!
Greetings from the USA. I wanted something different from my '73 P Bass fretless and my '80s MIJ Jazz Bass Special. I wanted something with some different tones and definitely lighter. My HB-60 is all of that and more.
THE LOOK
I love it. The finish might be a little too dark to really show off the wood, but it's still very nice. The craftsmanship is much better than I would have expected for an instrument at this price. My friends see a little bit of rockabily in this bass, but I'm OK with that.
THE FEEL
It's much lighter than my J Bass Special. I'm looking forward to playing gigs again because I know I'll be able to play all night long without feeling like my shoulder is going to give in under the weight of a slab of wood. The frets feel great - nothing snags. The tuners are just fine. And there isn't any noticeable neckdive. Overall it just feels good in my hands.
TONE
When I first plugged the bass in I wasn't wowed. The tone was OK but a little thin. It turns out that one of the first things to do is to remove the felt from under the floating bridge. (Careful when you do that, though, so intonation stays true. You might want to mark the position.) Then I upgraded to medium length La Bella Deep Talking strings. WOW! Talk about deep, rich sound! The combination might be too dark for some, but that's what I'm looking for.
The biggest sound definitely comes with the switch in the middle position. It's just a HUGE sound. I like the bridge pickup for brighter work and the neck pickup for more subtle songs. The tone knob doesn't seem to make a huge difference for me, but changing the volume of the neck and bridge pickups can really make a difference.
Even after adjusting the pickups, getting an even tone across the strings can take a little work. I find that it works best if I play the lower strings a little closer to the bridge and the higher strings a little closer to the neck. That gives the most even tone across all of them. I mean, if you play them all at the same place it's OK, but a little tweak to technique just helps out a bit.
In case you haven't noticed yet, I'm a tone geek. I've found that I can really work the tone in this instrument. Right hand finger position and plucking technique can make a massive difference. There's plenty to experiment with here. And then once in a while I pull out the pick for something completely different. There's just something fantastic about that middle position with both pickups one full and blasting something with a pick!
OTHER THOUGHTS
There was one minor flaw in my bass. I think I found someone on a forum with the same flaw, so it might be a design issue. At times the next pickup will rattle a bit. It does not sit securely in the bracket. I placed a small piece of felt or ribbon around the pickup between the pickup and its housing. I can't see the felt or ribbon, but it's just enough to keep the pickup from rattling.
I bought this with modifications in mind - maybe an option for switching between double and single coil and/or a series/parallel switch or even doing something crazy like adding a piezo pickup. All of that seems possible, but I'm not really sure I want or need to make any of those changes. Of course, if I do that and then decide that I liked the original sound I know I can a replacement for cheap, so it's low risk.
One note - the bass does not come with a case. Paid shipping to the US is NOT cheap through Thomann (like $50 for a $39 case), so you might want to buy a case at the time you buy the instrument. Similar cases are much more expensive on US-based sites.
I have recommended Harley Benton to other people based on my experience and might buy more in the future.
THE LOOK
I love it. The finish might be a little too dark to really show off the wood, but it's still very nice. The craftsmanship is much better than I would have expected for an instrument at this price. My friends see a little bit of rockabily in this bass, but I'm OK with that.
THE FEEL
It's much lighter than my J Bass Special. I'm looking forward to playing gigs again because I know I'll be able to play all night long without feeling like my shoulder is going to give in under the weight of a slab of wood. The frets feel great - nothing snags. The tuners are just fine. And there isn't any noticeable neckdive. Overall it just feels good in my hands.
TONE
When I first plugged the bass in I wasn't wowed. The tone was OK but a little thin. It turns out that one of the first things to do is to remove the felt from under the floating bridge. (Careful when you do that, though, so intonation stays true. You might want to mark the position.) Then I upgraded to medium length La Bella Deep Talking strings. WOW! Talk about deep, rich sound! The combination might be too dark for some, but that's what I'm looking for.
The biggest sound definitely comes with the switch in the middle position. It's just a HUGE sound. I like the bridge pickup for brighter work and the neck pickup for more subtle songs. The tone knob doesn't seem to make a huge difference for me, but changing the volume of the neck and bridge pickups can really make a difference.
Even after adjusting the pickups, getting an even tone across the strings can take a little work. I find that it works best if I play the lower strings a little closer to the bridge and the higher strings a little closer to the neck. That gives the most even tone across all of them. I mean, if you play them all at the same place it's OK, but a little tweak to technique just helps out a bit.
In case you haven't noticed yet, I'm a tone geek. I've found that I can really work the tone in this instrument. Right hand finger position and plucking technique can make a massive difference. There's plenty to experiment with here. And then once in a while I pull out the pick for something completely different. There's just something fantastic about that middle position with both pickups one full and blasting something with a pick!
OTHER THOUGHTS
There was one minor flaw in my bass. I think I found someone on a forum with the same flaw, so it might be a design issue. At times the next pickup will rattle a bit. It does not sit securely in the bracket. I placed a small piece of felt or ribbon around the pickup between the pickup and its housing. I can't see the felt or ribbon, but it's just enough to keep the pickup from rattling.
I bought this with modifications in mind - maybe an option for switching between double and single coil and/or a series/parallel switch or even doing something crazy like adding a piezo pickup. All of that seems possible, but I'm not really sure I want or need to make any of those changes. Of course, if I do that and then decide that I liked the original sound I know I can a replacement for cheap, so it's low risk.
One note - the bass does not come with a case. Paid shipping to the US is NOT cheap through Thomann (like $50 for a $39 case), so you might want to buy a case at the time you buy the instrument. Similar cases are much more expensive on US-based sites.
I have recommended Harley Benton to other people based on my experience and might buy more in the future.
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Excellent bass once set up...
I wanted a short scale, semi acoustic bass to use in a sixties influenced pop / rock trio. This HB-60 was drawn to my attention by a friend who has recently purchased a couple of HB instruments and forund them value for money.
The bass finish is much darker than it appears in the catalogue photograph. Nonetheless it is an attractive instrument and the quality of finish is good, save for one (very minor) blemish near the upper F-hole. Whilst not the heaviest bass I own (a Peavey T-40 holds that honour) this is a solid feeling instrument and I have no qualms about taking it to reherasals.
Once tuned up, the bass was playable, with a reasonably low action (approximately 3mm) at the 12th fret. There was no relief in the neck and consequently open strings rattled when played hard. I restrung with Fender 9050L flatwound strings (.045 - .100) and loosened the truss rod about 1/2 a turn which solved the problem.
The neck is comfortable, and I had no problem swapping between this and my long scale basses.
Sound unplugged is full and rich. Loud enough for quiet practice. Through a Line 6 Bass Pod it is possible to obtain a range of useable tones. The 'Sgt. Pepper' tone in particular is quite convincing! I play fingerstyle, but this bass also responds nicely when played with a pick.
No problems with electronics so far, all work as they should and without noise.
The only con is that the bass is too large for most cases, so the Hagstrom Viking bass case is the only one that will fit. It is a nice, retro looking, case, but relatively expensive.
It probably helps if you are confident enough to perform a basic set up, but that goes for most guitars. So far, I am very pleased with this purchase and consider it good value for money.
The bass finish is much darker than it appears in the catalogue photograph. Nonetheless it is an attractive instrument and the quality of finish is good, save for one (very minor) blemish near the upper F-hole. Whilst not the heaviest bass I own (a Peavey T-40 holds that honour) this is a solid feeling instrument and I have no qualms about taking it to reherasals.
Once tuned up, the bass was playable, with a reasonably low action (approximately 3mm) at the 12th fret. There was no relief in the neck and consequently open strings rattled when played hard. I restrung with Fender 9050L flatwound strings (.045 - .100) and loosened the truss rod about 1/2 a turn which solved the problem.
The neck is comfortable, and I had no problem swapping between this and my long scale basses.
Sound unplugged is full and rich. Loud enough for quiet practice. Through a Line 6 Bass Pod it is possible to obtain a range of useable tones. The 'Sgt. Pepper' tone in particular is quite convincing! I play fingerstyle, but this bass also responds nicely when played with a pick.
No problems with electronics so far, all work as they should and without noise.
The only con is that the bass is too large for most cases, so the Hagstrom Viking bass case is the only one that will fit. It is a nice, retro looking, case, but relatively expensive.
It probably helps if you are confident enough to perform a basic set up, but that goes for most guitars. So far, I am very pleased with this purchase and consider it good value for money.
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Good for a project
I'm a little on the fence about this instrument.
What stands out to me about this bass:
Absolutely stunning finish, in my opinion. At this price, I expected it to feel cheap and 'plasticky', but it's smooth and glossy. I'd personally prefer it without a pickguard, but that's very minor.
The neck is great. For someone like me who's mainly a guitarist, the shorter scale really lends itself to faster, tighter playing than a regular size, without compromise in tone or feel. I can get kinda sloppy on a regular bass, but this neck is very noob friendly and playable. Strings are a little bit rough, but nothing too noticeable. Not painfully, just a little annoying.
The sound is warm and round, but be advised, it's sort of low and it straight upp doesn't work with any kind of distortion. I'm totally down with the mics for jazz, soul or indie pop, but this bass can barely be in the same room as a fuzz pedal without catching fire. Huge bummer, to be honest.
The action when I got it was SO LOW. Rattles for days. It sounds and feels fine above the 7th/5th fret, depending on the string, but below it gets muddy at best and fully dead at worst. Very limiting, and if you're not comfortable with doing your own maintenance, it's gonna cost you more money. Maybe I'm being picky, but an instrument should be finished when it leaves the factory. Light setup is fine, but this bass has unplayable frets out of the box. Big mad.
In all, it's a beautiful, cool looking and sounding instrument for the price. Honestly a little too much setup is required for me to be *happy*, but again given the price pretty worth it. Just be prepared for work. Change the strings and mics and fix the awful action, and it's gonna be way bitter than you've paid for. But you'll be annoyed at receiving a half finished bass. Final verdict: a WHOPPING 3.5/5.
What stands out to me about this bass:
Absolutely stunning finish, in my opinion. At this price, I expected it to feel cheap and 'plasticky', but it's smooth and glossy. I'd personally prefer it without a pickguard, but that's very minor.
The neck is great. For someone like me who's mainly a guitarist, the shorter scale really lends itself to faster, tighter playing than a regular size, without compromise in tone or feel. I can get kinda sloppy on a regular bass, but this neck is very noob friendly and playable. Strings are a little bit rough, but nothing too noticeable. Not painfully, just a little annoying.
The sound is warm and round, but be advised, it's sort of low and it straight upp doesn't work with any kind of distortion. I'm totally down with the mics for jazz, soul or indie pop, but this bass can barely be in the same room as a fuzz pedal without catching fire. Huge bummer, to be honest.
The action when I got it was SO LOW. Rattles for days. It sounds and feels fine above the 7th/5th fret, depending on the string, but below it gets muddy at best and fully dead at worst. Very limiting, and if you're not comfortable with doing your own maintenance, it's gonna cost you more money. Maybe I'm being picky, but an instrument should be finished when it leaves the factory. Light setup is fine, but this bass has unplayable frets out of the box. Big mad.
In all, it's a beautiful, cool looking and sounding instrument for the price. Honestly a little too much setup is required for me to be *happy*, but again given the price pretty worth it. Just be prepared for work. Change the strings and mics and fix the awful action, and it's gonna be way bitter than you've paid for. But you'll be annoyed at receiving a half finished bass. Final verdict: a WHOPPING 3.5/5.
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Great bass after some adjustments
Been playing it for a few weeks now and I really, really, like the bass. Before I bought it I read reviews in various bass forums, usually from people who would never touch a semi hollow bass that cost less than 1000 Euros, that everything that is Chinese made and branded Harley Benton is utter crap.
Now I'm glad I didn't listen to that and bought it to form my own opinion. This is a well built beautiful bass. The neck is completely straight and the body feel and sound like good quality. The pickups sound just like I want them to sound, warm, deep and vintage 60's. The only flaw is the pickup toggle switch that I probably have to replace sooner or later. But that is a ~15 Euro component.
I replaced the stock strings with Fender flatwound 9050l strings and adjusted the neck bend and string action height. These are easy adjustments that you would normally do anyway to make the bass fit your playing style. Watch a "bass setup" youtube clip if you don't know how to. Now it sounds great and I highly recommend it.
It should be noted that this bass require medium or long scale strings even though it's a short scale bass.
Edit: I was a bit worried that the hollow body would produce a lot of feedback but when rehearsing I've had no problem with feedback even when it's really really loud.
Now I'm glad I didn't listen to that and bought it to form my own opinion. This is a well built beautiful bass. The neck is completely straight and the body feel and sound like good quality. The pickups sound just like I want them to sound, warm, deep and vintage 60's. The only flaw is the pickup toggle switch that I probably have to replace sooner or later. But that is a ~15 Euro component.
I replaced the stock strings with Fender flatwound 9050l strings and adjusted the neck bend and string action height. These are easy adjustments that you would normally do anyway to make the bass fit your playing style. Watch a "bass setup" youtube clip if you don't know how to. Now it sounds great and I highly recommend it.
It should be noted that this bass require medium or long scale strings even though it's a short scale bass.
Edit: I was a bit worried that the hollow body would produce a lot of feedback but when rehearsing I've had no problem with feedback even when it's really really loud.
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Amazing bass In this pricerange
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So much better than expected
I bought this bass as I didn't have a short scale, and I needed a cheap passive to use for rehearsals and jams. It was supposed to be almost a disposable bass, but it is way better than that.
The sound is a lovely warm vintage tone, which I've immediately found a use for in recording, which I didn't expect. It doesn't have a vast range, but you can still get a good variation, with a distinct difference between the pick-ups. Clearly it's not going to work for any high gain stuff, but from blues to classic rock, it'll do a really good job. It has a very rounded, open, almost acoustic quality, while still staying nicely focused.
Build quality is excellent, though obviously the tuners aren't top notch at this price point. Still holds the tuning well though, even when played hard under lights. As expected with this type of bridge, intonation is a bit tricky, but it's just going to take a bit of patience to get it right. Knobs and pickup selector are okay, though could be smoother, but nothing that seriously causes an issue. No crackle or noise when in use.
Frets are smooth and didn't need any work, and the fretboard is fine. Action was a bit high out of the box, but dropped easily enough, and neck relief was spot on.
Just one final comment on how it looks, which is amazing. Every time I've taken it out, people have come up to me to comment on it. It really is an eye catching guitar. No faults or blemishes at all on the finish, and a really classy colour. It looks a much more expensive instrument than it is.
If I did damage or lose it, I would be straight onto Thomann for another one.
The sound is a lovely warm vintage tone, which I've immediately found a use for in recording, which I didn't expect. It doesn't have a vast range, but you can still get a good variation, with a distinct difference between the pick-ups. Clearly it's not going to work for any high gain stuff, but from blues to classic rock, it'll do a really good job. It has a very rounded, open, almost acoustic quality, while still staying nicely focused.
Build quality is excellent, though obviously the tuners aren't top notch at this price point. Still holds the tuning well though, even when played hard under lights. As expected with this type of bridge, intonation is a bit tricky, but it's just going to take a bit of patience to get it right. Knobs and pickup selector are okay, though could be smoother, but nothing that seriously causes an issue. No crackle or noise when in use.
Frets are smooth and didn't need any work, and the fretboard is fine. Action was a bit high out of the box, but dropped easily enough, and neck relief was spot on.
Just one final comment on how it looks, which is amazing. Every time I've taken it out, people have come up to me to comment on it. It really is an eye catching guitar. No faults or blemishes at all on the finish, and a really classy colour. It looks a much more expensive instrument than it is.
If I did damage or lose it, I would be straight onto Thomann for another one.
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I love this thing!
It’s beautiful. It’s price is amazing! I am using mine as a project and am rewiring it and changing the tuning and all sorts of things. BUT…I liked it so much as it was that I almost didn’t change it and I may buy more!
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just arrived, "passed QA" and the pickups make a huge noise
just arrived, I wonder if the fact it was the last one...
Anyway, the 3 controls don't seem to react perfectly (the tone almost cut the all volume down!) and in a couple of configurations (together with the switch) the bass generated no string sound but just a LOUD (white) noise that, of course, if I touch the strings, tends to increase or decrease the intensity. Basically the electronic is completely messed up. Ironically, it has the sticker "QA passed". Sure.
Anyway, the 3 controls don't seem to react perfectly (the tone almost cut the all volume down!) and in a couple of configurations (together with the switch) the bass generated no string sound but just a LOUD (white) noise that, of course, if I touch the strings, tends to increase or decrease the intensity. Basically the electronic is completely messed up. Ironically, it has the sticker "QA passed". Sure.
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HB-60 WB
i'd wanted one of these for ages, i love love love them, everyone i've told about it or shown a picture of it ha gone "oooh, yes, get one". so i did!
plusses: it's beautiful, the finish is flawless, the balance is just right (i have an aria ABG and it suffers badly from neck-dive), the neck is smooth and after a bit of practice it felt just right (i usually play 5s, so the smaller neck felt a bit lost until i got 'into it' and then mm-mm-mmmmm), the hardware compliments the woodwork perfectly, little touches like the shark-fin fret inlays, the body binding, everything, cosmetically and aesthetically it's perfect. and the sound, oh my stars, through an ashdown MAG 300 1x15 it's lovely, thick, warm, creamy, i love it.
cons: pick-up selector switch. it's a bit loose and not properly connected, so the bridge pick didn't work on first playing but the neck PU was fine. after some jiggling and crackling i got them both working, then neither, then the neck only, then both, then nothing. it's not the end of the world, i could dismiss it and say it worked loose it transit, but it'll be a nightmare to get fixed without opening the body up or someone being a real whizz with hollowbodies. disappointing, means i can't gig it, but it'll look beautiful on the stand for now.
but i would still recommend the bass, for what it is it's beautiful, if you want one for a different colour on gigs or as a on-off only-use-it-once-in-a-while it's the absolute business, if you want one for a main bass go mental and spend two or three times the price, it'll do the same thing but it'll cost you, for my money this one's perfect. apart from the switch.
plusses: it's beautiful, the finish is flawless, the balance is just right (i have an aria ABG and it suffers badly from neck-dive), the neck is smooth and after a bit of practice it felt just right (i usually play 5s, so the smaller neck felt a bit lost until i got 'into it' and then mm-mm-mmmmm), the hardware compliments the woodwork perfectly, little touches like the shark-fin fret inlays, the body binding, everything, cosmetically and aesthetically it's perfect. and the sound, oh my stars, through an ashdown MAG 300 1x15 it's lovely, thick, warm, creamy, i love it.
cons: pick-up selector switch. it's a bit loose and not properly connected, so the bridge pick didn't work on first playing but the neck PU was fine. after some jiggling and crackling i got them both working, then neither, then the neck only, then both, then nothing. it's not the end of the world, i could dismiss it and say it worked loose it transit, but it'll be a nightmare to get fixed without opening the body up or someone being a real whizz with hollowbodies. disappointing, means i can't gig it, but it'll look beautiful on the stand for now.
but i would still recommend the bass, for what it is it's beautiful, if you want one for a different colour on gigs or as a on-off only-use-it-once-in-a-while it's the absolute business, if you want one for a main bass go mental and spend two or three times the price, it'll do the same thing but it'll cost you, for my money this one's perfect. apart from the switch.
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Cheaply made, has lots of problems and bad quality control
Loved the shape of the bass and the basic features it provides, but... had to return the instrument because of quality issues (loose potentiometer, cracks in the laquer etc.) and wait for 4 months (!) for the new one to arrive only to find out that the next one still has many problems with it, like bad laquering, cracks in the finishing and unatached potentiometer wires. So had to return the bass the second time.
Won't be bothering with this bass anymore. I bought many things from Thomann before and am very satisfied with the company, but the quality control with this particular bass is just non-existent.
Won't be bothering with this bass anymore. I bought many things from Thomann before and am very satisfied with the company, but the quality control with this particular bass is just non-existent.
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