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Pleasantly Surprised!
When ordering this I was worried the build quality might be really cheap but as soon as I took it out of the box them worries went away. Although obviously not a high end product it does seem surprisingly sturdy and I was also surprised by it's weight, which was more than I had expected. So far it has been reasonably easy to set up and start using although mapping out every knob and button will still take some figuring out. Other than the necessary tinkering I haven't yet come across any sizeable cons. On the pro side, it's easy to use, quick to set up and obviously a nice compact size. One notable pro is the fact it does not require drivers to function so if you have no internet connection or simply can't be bothered searching for drivers you don't need to worry. That being said there are some customization features that will be missing without drivers.
In summary: Only getting started with this but so far so good.
1: Easy to use.
2: Easy to set up.
3: Not too noisy despite what some people say
4: Looks and feels better than expected.
Great value for money
In summary: Only getting started with this but so far so good.
1: Easy to use.
2: Easy to set up.
3: Not too noisy despite what some people say
4: Looks and feels better than expected.
Great value for money
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Value for money
This is my first controller surface with motorized faders, so bear this in mind when reading this review.
Total: 5/5 stars. For the price, it's a very enticing offer. 9 motorized faders, 16 push encoders, 38 buttons, and two layers doubling possible assignments. I was torn between this and the normal X-Touch, but I opted for this one, the Compact, since it's fully programmable, and has the extra 8 encoders on the side that allow me to control more parameters simultaneously.
Handling: 4/5 The unit is quite bulky. If it's not placed on a lower lever than the desk (where one would put the computer keyboard for example) it's not easy to see the encoders' ring LEDs, because the unit is quite tall too.
Features: 5/5 I give it a 5 out of 5, because of aforementioned programmability and the extra 8 push encoders.
Quality: 4/5 Going strong after about 3 months, although some encoders were more "loose" than the others, right out of the box. This is not to say that encoders do not click with authority, or that they have started to skip - no, everything works fine. It's just that not all 16 encoders are 100% consistent in feel. But I'm being overly picky here.
So. How I use it. With Cubase 12.
I downloaded the editor application. I assigned whatever messages I felt right in the X-Touch Editor (e.g. pitch bend for faders, notes for buttons, CC inc/dec for encoder twists, notes for encoder pushes, I saved these presets on my PC, I dumped them to the hardware unit.
***NOW here is a quirk. If I just load Cubase after powering up the Compact, Cubase doesn't want to work with it, something's off. HOWEVER, if I just load the X-Touch Editor application, and later enter Cubase, everything works perfectly. Just mentioning this, as it made an impression to me.***
After programming the Compact itself, it's a breeze to build a MIDI Remote in Cubase 12. Of course touch awareness for the faders is not quite there yet, but that is Cubase's business and not Compact's. (Of course one could just use the Compact in MC mode through the Generic Remote for traditional MCU implementation, in that case touch works just fine. Personally I just use the MIDI mode and abuse the Automation Write Button, by assigning it to each fader's touch trigger.)
Eventually, using the MIDI remote and devising a clever set of remote pages, allows this unit to control - with GREAT ease - at least 41 plug-in or instrument parameters (16 encoders, 16 pushes, 9 faders), sends, EQs, regular banks of channel volumes and pans, you name it. Imagination and clever design of the pages so that they allow natural workflow is the limit here, and the Compact is an excellent canvas.
(It's worth noting that when using Cubase's MIDI Remote, selecting a channel in Cubase will automatically have the Compact go to the proper fader Bank, unlike traditional MCU implementation.)
I was putting off the purchase of the Compact for some time, trying to persuade myself that:
a) I don't really need it.
b) I might run in insurmountable setup problems.
c) Quality might not be so great.
After a long time, I finally decided to buy it and:
a) Sure, I don't really need it, but it allows me to work much faster and enjoyably. If someone took it away from me right now, I would miss it.
b) It was extremely straightforward to set up in MIDI mode.
*Of course it took a minimum amount of effort to program what I needed in the device, and Cubase. I could have used MC mode for zero-effort control of Volume-Pan-Rec Enable-Mute-Solo-Select if I wanted instead.*
c) Quality is fine really, and Thomann's 3 year warranty has put me completely at ease.
I would easily recommend the Compact to anyone who wants an affordable controller with motorized faders and 16 push encoders and who doesn't care for displays, timecode and the traditional MCU layout.
Total: 5/5 stars. For the price, it's a very enticing offer. 9 motorized faders, 16 push encoders, 38 buttons, and two layers doubling possible assignments. I was torn between this and the normal X-Touch, but I opted for this one, the Compact, since it's fully programmable, and has the extra 8 encoders on the side that allow me to control more parameters simultaneously.
Handling: 4/5 The unit is quite bulky. If it's not placed on a lower lever than the desk (where one would put the computer keyboard for example) it's not easy to see the encoders' ring LEDs, because the unit is quite tall too.
Features: 5/5 I give it a 5 out of 5, because of aforementioned programmability and the extra 8 push encoders.
Quality: 4/5 Going strong after about 3 months, although some encoders were more "loose" than the others, right out of the box. This is not to say that encoders do not click with authority, or that they have started to skip - no, everything works fine. It's just that not all 16 encoders are 100% consistent in feel. But I'm being overly picky here.
So. How I use it. With Cubase 12.
I downloaded the editor application. I assigned whatever messages I felt right in the X-Touch Editor (e.g. pitch bend for faders, notes for buttons, CC inc/dec for encoder twists, notes for encoder pushes, I saved these presets on my PC, I dumped them to the hardware unit.
***NOW here is a quirk. If I just load Cubase after powering up the Compact, Cubase doesn't want to work with it, something's off. HOWEVER, if I just load the X-Touch Editor application, and later enter Cubase, everything works perfectly. Just mentioning this, as it made an impression to me.***
After programming the Compact itself, it's a breeze to build a MIDI Remote in Cubase 12. Of course touch awareness for the faders is not quite there yet, but that is Cubase's business and not Compact's. (Of course one could just use the Compact in MC mode through the Generic Remote for traditional MCU implementation, in that case touch works just fine. Personally I just use the MIDI mode and abuse the Automation Write Button, by assigning it to each fader's touch trigger.)
Eventually, using the MIDI remote and devising a clever set of remote pages, allows this unit to control - with GREAT ease - at least 41 plug-in or instrument parameters (16 encoders, 16 pushes, 9 faders), sends, EQs, regular banks of channel volumes and pans, you name it. Imagination and clever design of the pages so that they allow natural workflow is the limit here, and the Compact is an excellent canvas.
(It's worth noting that when using Cubase's MIDI Remote, selecting a channel in Cubase will automatically have the Compact go to the proper fader Bank, unlike traditional MCU implementation.)
I was putting off the purchase of the Compact for some time, trying to persuade myself that:
a) I don't really need it.
b) I might run in insurmountable setup problems.
c) Quality might not be so great.
After a long time, I finally decided to buy it and:
a) Sure, I don't really need it, but it allows me to work much faster and enjoyably. If someone took it away from me right now, I would miss it.
b) It was extremely straightforward to set up in MIDI mode.
*Of course it took a minimum amount of effort to program what I needed in the device, and Cubase. I could have used MC mode for zero-effort control of Volume-Pan-Rec Enable-Mute-Solo-Select if I wanted instead.*
c) Quality is fine really, and Thomann's 3 year warranty has put me completely at ease.
I would easily recommend the Compact to anyone who wants an affordable controller with motorized faders and 16 push encoders and who doesn't care for displays, timecode and the traditional MCU layout.
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So I bought this for school to work with Pro tools and Logic. It doesnt support HUI (Pro tools protocal) , wich is my fault for not knowing, and the support for Logic is really limited. It's only through Logic, there is no other mean of editing the data on mac. For example there are two buttons that don't send any data in Mackie Mode/MCU mode (have'nt been programmed) and needs a windows computer to download software to edit it, software from 2015 btw.
It's really hard to make it do what I want it (through Logic) and there is absolutely no support or information on the internet, Behringer site last updated about 2015 from what i can gather. Just alot of frustration coming from this thing. Iv'e spent like 8 hours looking for info and tinkering with little results.
Its built ok, buttons are nice but faderheads feel cheap. Encoders are nice except there are no grooves so sweaty mix sessions will lead to slipping. And it makes noise, both the faders and something internally, More than I expected.
Overall 2 stars
It's really hard to make it do what I want it (through Logic) and there is absolutely no support or information on the internet, Behringer site last updated about 2015 from what i can gather. Just alot of frustration coming from this thing. Iv'e spent like 8 hours looking for info and tinkering with little results.
Its built ok, buttons are nice but faderheads feel cheap. Encoders are nice except there are no grooves so sweaty mix sessions will lead to slipping. And it makes noise, both the faders and something internally, More than I expected.
Overall 2 stars
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Great!
Versatile unit from Behringer, much better built then previous BCF controllers. Although it is only MC control and not HUI, you can use a midi translator software or hardware to make it work well with Pro Tools, although it needs a little programming skills. I like the Behringer control software that makes it very easy to configure the settings.
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Awesome stuff for the money
I'm using the X-Touch Compact with Samplitude Pro X3 and it works perfectly via Mackie protocol. Rebinding buttons and knobs is easy, faders feel very good for the money. I'd say that the impressions are very similar to Avid's Artist Control, that is overprices like hell.
The faders might be a bit too loud if you are in a quiet part of a song or movie, but again - it is awesome for its price.
One more thing - it doesn't support HUI protocol, so you will not be able to use it with Pro Tools (in that case go for full X-Touch).
The faders might be a bit too loud if you are in a quiet part of a song or movie, but again - it is awesome for its price.
One more thing - it doesn't support HUI protocol, so you will not be able to use it with Pro Tools (in that case go for full X-Touch).
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ok.. but not the best in its class
Bought this controller for use with Ableton live,
I have a ton of midi controllers mainly APC's so I can only compare to these.
the controllers build is okay, not the sturdiest and the knobs and faders are of medium quality.
Software integration proved to be a bit tricky at first but it does work, i found that for the same price akai offers a much better option minus the power supply.
motorized faders are cool but I failed to find a use for them.
The midi controller market is quite competitive and you can most probably find something which is much more portable and easier to integrate with your daw
I have a ton of midi controllers mainly APC's so I can only compare to these.
the controllers build is okay, not the sturdiest and the knobs and faders are of medium quality.
Software integration proved to be a bit tricky at first but it does work, i found that for the same price akai offers a much better option minus the power supply.
motorized faders are cool but I failed to find a use for them.
The midi controller market is quite competitive and you can most probably find something which is much more portable and easier to integrate with your daw
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I wanted to use it with Midas M32C and or Pro Tools.
First, integration with Pro Tools is not possible.
Setting up the Compact (in MC mode) to work with Midas M32C was a bit trickey but finally got it working. The motorized faders are cool and I like these. The functionality is not the best for that kind of usage, since some knobs do nothing. Sometimes it does not connect properly and needs a couple of restarts, but it will work eventually.
The Compact model does not have LAN connection while X-Touch Extender has. It is a huge difference. Also, both P-Touch and P-Touch Extender can work with Pro Tools while P-Touch Compact cannot.
It is not exactly I was looking for.
First, integration with Pro Tools is not possible.
Setting up the Compact (in MC mode) to work with Midas M32C was a bit trickey but finally got it working. The motorized faders are cool and I like these. The functionality is not the best for that kind of usage, since some knobs do nothing. Sometimes it does not connect properly and needs a couple of restarts, but it will work eventually.
The Compact model does not have LAN connection while X-Touch Extender has. It is a huge difference. Also, both P-Touch and P-Touch Extender can work with Pro Tools while P-Touch Compact cannot.
It is not exactly I was looking for.
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Doesn't provide NPRN and SysEx communication.
I was disappointed to realize once I bought it that the device isn't capable to communicate with NPRN and SysEx messages, which was important to me, because I planned to use it with a synthesizer and to control some sound parameters that are deeply inside the menu.
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5 stars from me
I had an Icon M+ that was giving me endless problems in Ableton, so I decided to buy the Behringer. Compared to the Icon, the Behringer's editing software is miles and miles ahead. Faders are quiet and work well, altogether the quality of the hardware is actually very good. I use ClyphX Pro and I wanted a controller that can be dynamically bound to different functions using ClyphX Bindings. The Icon almost gave me a heart attack with its endless problems, the XTouch just works as it should without any hiccup whatsoever. I love this thing. Very happy with this purchase!
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